Cincinnati’s Great Show, and now Jr. Modeler Chapter: October Model Show Spotlight

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Yes, yes, they do, and we have one of my favorite shows coming up.

Well, this is a good one, but we're not gonna run our mouths talking about it. We have a guest tonight to talk about that. So let's get into it, man. Sounds great.

Show Date And Museum Venue

Joining us tonight from the Cincinnati Scale Modelers is, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, club president Will Kurt. Is that right? Yes, sir. Well, how you booing, man? We saw you at Nats and we set this up then. And how you been? How's things in Cincinnati right now?

Cincinnati's been hot, and we've been really busy getting a show planned.

I imagine. Well, uh, that's what we're here to talk about first. We got a couple of topics. We're gonna talk about this one first and get it on down the road. Well, won't you start out with the the the when and the where and the who, all the W's surrounding this show?

Yeah, sure. So our show is coming up very soon. We are a little less than 30 days in counting. It takes place October 17th, Saturday, and it will be held once again at the Tri-State Warbird Museum in Batavia, Ohio, just east of Cincinnati off Interstate 275. We open at 9 o'clock in the morning for all you model builders, and we'll be going all the way through the afternoon. And a really nice thing about our show is because it's set up in a museum, you have the chance to see all the aircraft up close and personal, but also the whole showroom stays open throughout the whole day. We're not able to close it down because of the fact that it's a museum open to the public, and that's a real big advantage for our show.

Yes, that's a great feature of Cincinnati as far as I'm concerned. Well, how many how many years have you been out there now?

It's been a bit.

It has been a bit. I think we are somewhere around the five-year mark.

Yeah, I think so. I think I think COVID changes kind of kicked you guys out of the technical school there up on the north side of town, and you've been at the museum since then.

So we've been at the museum since then. You know, every year we approach it from like a process improvement standpoint. And so we have some really exciting new things coming this year.

Well, let's talk about those, yeah.

One thing all of the visitors will discover is all of the Cincinnati scale modelers wearing branded t-shirts from our club with our beautiful new club logo, which features the Cincinnati skyline, and then three images, one being the USS Cincinnati submarine. We have a call out to the Camaro, which was produced here in Norwood, Ohio, all the way up until about 15 years ago when the Fisher body plant closed. And then finally the F-16, because GE, located here in Springdale, Ohio, was very involved with the testing and design of all of the F-16 jet engines. So we have this beautiful logo. You'll see all of us wearing our club t-shirt to help kind of brand our show. But also, if you need help, you'll know exactly who to look for. Just find one of us and we'll be happy to help you.

Great.

Well, what do you got going on for registration?

Registration Options And Fees

Is there online, complete online registration? Is there printable forms? What folks need to do to get prepped for showing up that day?

So registration is online and also in person at the show. Essentially, when you arrive at the show, you will have to check in at the front desk of the museum and you'll pay $10. That goes strictly to the museum. Then you'll come into Hangar One and you'll see our registration tables where you will then pay your fee for model entry, which is $10 from one up to 10 models inclusive. And any model beyond that is simply another two bucks. We'll have all the model forms dispersed on tables with plenty of pens for you to sit down and work on your paperwork. However, if you choose to register online, all of that can be charged directly to your credit card or your debit card. And all of the forms are available through our website, which is CNSy C-I-N-C-Y-IPMS.com. These are also printable PDF forms, which means you can type them out on your computer so they're very nice and neat, and then print them out and just bring them to the show with you.

So if I understand you right, you can pretty much do it three ways. You could do it completely online and pay. You can fill out the forms online and bring them in and pay there, or you can show up and fill them out there and pay there. Is that right?

There you go. Absolutely.

So you've got everything covered.

We got everything covered. We'll have plenty of people to help you as well. We will have assistance there at the registration table. Another improvement this year to help people find things very easily is we will have a brand new vinyl banner at the registration table, again with our big logo, very, very prominent. So you'll be able to find it right away. We will have a greeter also at the front door of the hangar, not only to greet you to our show and set you off with a great mood and a great attitude for the day, but also just to verify that you were able to check in okay at the museum front desk.

Special Awards With Real Stories

I would like to also talk a little bit about some of the special awards that we have this year for our show.

Yeah, there's one that comes to mind sponsored by some barbecue joint. You still got that going on?

Yeah, we do. So that's the boss hog. That's that's definitely so near and dear to my heart. We've had the boss hog now pretty much, I think this is the fifth year. The first winner was from the Louisville Club, if I remember. Kip, I believe was his name. He's a good friend of mine. Yep. And we still have that award. So our friend from Mission Barbecue will still be attending this year to present it. I will be walking out with her looking at the different entries that could be in contention, and then we'll make she'll make a decision on what she likes. But the theme for the award is really any model. It can be literally any model, but it has to be a model that somehow tells the story about service to the United States or duty to your country. So some examples could be like a fire truck that you're modeling for 9-11. It could be a tank with a particularly very interesting story to it, you know, or an aircraft or whatever, or even a figure. Last year, Chris Dumford from our club was the winner for his USS Pillsbury scratch-built ship, which was very beautiful. Yes, it was. We have another one this year, which is brand new. Really excited about this one. And there's a little bit of a backstory to this, if you don't mind. Sure. I built the Chimia P38 Lightning about a year and a half ago, and people know my little buckaroo nose art jacket that I'll wear at shows. And was working on an airplane, and I said to my buddy Pat Hutchins, I swear there was something about the pilot of this plane being from Ohio. And we started researching, and lo and behold, he came from Hillsborough, which is just east of Batavia, where our show is. Pat and I did a little research, and we came across the granddaughter, which led us to her father, who's still alive. So he's the son of Colonel Robert Rogers, who was the pilot of Little Buckaroo. And so I had this idea I would love to sponsor an award in honor of Colonel Rogers. So we have this year a beautiful plaque uh with the very famous photograph of back then Major Rogers standing right next to his P-38 Lightning looking at his nose art a little buckaroo. But guess what? The award is gonna be presented by William Rogers, the son. Oh, nice. And he's gonna be coming to our show, talking with people, telling stories. He's even gonna be bringing some things from his father that people are gonna want to see. This is so special, and I'm so excited for this. So if you guys are out there listening, you got a P38 Lightning, make sure you get in into our show.

That's a great way to A honor a local hero. It's also a nice way to let the son of that person know that his father is well remembered in ways he probably didn't appreciate. Exactly. I really love that idea.

Yeah. You know, as I talk to people who really aren't in this hobby and I tell them these stories, you know, one thing I will always comment to them is the one thing that I really love about our hobby is the stories. Yeah. And it's the people that we meet. You know, build it building our plastic, you know, that's fine and good. But when it gets down to it, it's doing stuff like this. It's like doing the service to the memories and connecting with the people. We uh and I'll just have this tie-in because it's all related. We have a third award, which will be brand new for this year as well. We're calling this the Spirit of Cincinnati Award, and it's a trophy that can really go to anything. It could be a Cumaro, it could be a Sherman tank, because the Moser Safe Company here in World War II did a lot of the casting of turrets for Sherman tanks. Oh, really? So because Cincinnati was so industrial, you know, we have the Crosley car. I mean, all across sorts of things. But this is going to be sponsored by another homegrown business, the La Rosa's Pizza.

Yeah.

And so we're having a representative from La Rosa's Pizza come down. But here's where this all kind of loops back into telling stories. So we've been having Thursday night model club get togethers at this local La Rosa's in the party room on Thursday evenings. And one of our servers took a lot of interest in what we did, and she struck up a conversation with a gentleman in our club that we know as Boat Steve. And it turns out her father was on the four stall. So Steve had built this model, and so he gets the idea. I want to give that to her as a gift so she can give it to her dad. And so at our last little Thursday night, he brought it and he called her back and said, I'd like to give this to you. And that's really, again, whether it's the little buckaro story or this gifting of the forest doll to this young lady, that's what it's all about to me, this hobby. It's these connections.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. It is particularly, it's a great way for us to be able to honor those folks.

It it really is. And so I'm I'm very excited this year that I think our guests will see an increase in like professional appearance, a more polished put-together show. We hope everything goes absolutely seamlessly for everybody. We've put we've worked really hard to you know study the past. What little tweaks can we make? Always looking for those improvements to really be one of the premier shows in our region. And that's what our goal is.

Well, you've got a lovely facility. The the Cincinnati Club has always been very welcoming. Y'all put on a great show. It's one of those that I try not to miss every year. And this year I've got an additional incentive. My daughter is now a a freshman at University of Cincinnati.

Hey, congratulations.

Thank you. So after the show, I'll go over and have dinner with you.

There you go. That's nice. Yeah. Yep. We we are going to have our food truck again. It will be the same hamburger truck that was so popular last year. So they will be back. We will also have our additional facilities set up in back behind the hangar in terms of restrooms, so we don't have to rely on the only one inside the building. So that will be there.

Now you've really thought of everything. Yeah, there we go. Well, you know, I honestly, and disappointing to me is it's been a couple years since I've been able to make that show. I know Dave's gone up on behalf of Plastic Model Mojo to attend that show. What's the vendor landscape looking like this year?

We are just about sold out.

All right. That's always good.

So if you're a vendor out there listening and you haven't gotten a table, you need to go online and get one or contact us as soon as you can. Otherwise, we'll put you on a wait list. But we have great vendors as well. You know, of course, we have the same ones that we tend to see year after year after year. But as I personally go to shows, I'm continually inviting people. Hey, come be a vendor at our show, you know, and kind of work in that angle too. So we'll see some new people there this year, I think.

For me personally, I always found Cincy to be, and this is not a disparagement. For me from personally, it's it's a plus, tended to be skewed toward the kind of the stash reduction kind of private modeler kind of vendor tables. And I really, I really like that a lot. Because you you can find some really cool stuff, and a lot of times you can find it at a really cool price.

Yes, I'm here to tell you that last year I did some serious damage at Cincy because of that very fact there were a number of vendors who were getting rid of some stuff at some very attractive prices. Yeah.

So we'll see some of that again. So make sure you bring money. Bring lots of money, Dave.

Yeah, I don't think that's gonna be a problem.

Well, you've got these guests and then these special awards, which is fantastic. And you've got your your kind of your legacy one from for the Boss Hog Award from the barbecue place.

I was just gonna mention in terms of awards, you know, because of the fact that we have upgraded our image, this brand new logo, we have also produced brand new loose sight acrylic best of awards, including the best of show. They are gorgeous. I can just say they are absolutely gorgeous with this big, beautiful, colorful logo on it. They just look amazing. They're gonna look amazing on the tables. And boy, whoever, whoever the guys out there winning a couple of those, you're gonna have a really nice piece of hardware for your collection.

We talk about, you know, what makes shows unique, and certainly the having these guests for these special awards is is kind of something we've not run into much of before.

Museum Aircraft And Show Highlights

But I I think still, still, because it's so different than than most shows out there, certainly every other show in our our region here, region four, is the museum. What are some of the highlights aircraft-wise that folks can uh count on seeing at the museum that that makes it such a such a great place to come have a model show?

Well, of course, one of their newest is the big albatross. That will be behind the museum. Of course, the P-51 Cincinnati miss will be there. You've got some Jeeps and so forth, a few classic cars. We have the B-26, which will be there. We've got the the uh Steerman, some other planes I know I'm forgetting. Now the Falk Wolf 190 is currently at Lunkin, being repaired. We hope to have her back in the next week and a half, so she'll be there too. But if not, just wait one more year and she'll be back for you.

Well, because we have a dear friend who's gonna always be curious, is is the uh has the F4 Corsair made it any further than than it was?

It has. Yes, it has. So you'll definitely see progress with that too.

All right, cool. Good.

It can't be yeah. It's it is really fun to see the progress as they work on these, you know. Takes a lot of time. Boy, it sure does. But you'll you'll see some progress with that for sure.

All right. Well, how about you give us before we change topics here, give us the the the who, what, where, and when one more time, and uh we'll segue on over.

So Saturday, October 17th, Tri-State Warbur Museum in Batavia, Ohio, just east of Cincinnati, right off to Interstate 275 by about 10 minutes. We open at 9 o'clock in the morning for the model builders, and we will welcome you with smiles at registration. We'll have our hospitality area, go over and get yourself a cookie or a donut and some coffee, work on your entries, and we will love to see you.

Where can folks find the information again?

You can find all the information about our show, including the awards, on our website. You can either google Cincinnati Scale Modelers or use the URL Cincy C-I-N-C-Y-I-P-MS.com.

Well, we hope to see you there, man.

I'm excited to see you there too. Can't wait.

Launching A Junior Modelers Club

Well, folks, Cincinnati's got a lot going on and not only in process improvement for their own show, which is absolutely a fabulous show. You really need to go. Will still with us because since he's been doing something else here that's kind of new in the IPMS organization and involves uh the formation of youth chapters to get some younger folks involved in our hobby. Will, can you give us a rundown? I think maybe you even gave a a presentation at the National Convention on this regard, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes.

Uh tell us about what's going on.

So we back a year ago, this all got started at the Nats that was out in where was the last one? Virginia.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I was at a museum with some friends, and I get this email, and it was from a lady inquiring, did we have anything for kids? Any kind of club for kids? And I responded, No, we don't, but you know, I'm a former teacher and I've always wanted to start one. So when I get back into town, I'd love to talk to you about it. Well, it turned out she was already at the Nets with her son. And so we met at the awards banquet. And I met Levi, who ended up winning an award in the juniors category. And when we got back to Cincinnati, I followed up with Melissa, and we started thinking about what we could do. That's really how this all got started. It was just a conversation. And when we began this, you know, we had to be very kind of methodical about it. And we had to think about where could we meet, you know, and also answer all these questions, you know, where do you get kids from? Where do you get the models from? Where do you get the tools from? So as we worked through all of that, and this is what the seminar that we presented at the last national convention was about, you know, we started out with a couple three kids, you know, and now we're up to a solid core. I mean, I mean kids who show up every single month. I have around 11 kids. And now we're making connections with the Boy Scouts, or I should say with the Scouts. I've made connections there, and I have a upcoming meeting with Scouting America to talk to them about the club to get scouts involved. So there's a whole bunch of stuff to talk to here. So if you have questions, I'll answer them.

Sure. So this is a a youth program within IPMS, or is it is it strictly, well, not I know you're you gave this presentation at NASC to hopefully expand on this across the country, but uh right now, is this a kind of a Cincinnati-specific thing?

So when we first started, the idea was we're just Melissa Bauer and myself, we would just show up. And, you know, the first couple meetings, I was down here in my stash pool and kits, you know, taking them up to the library where we meet and saying, you know, here you go, and bringing my own glue and supplies and stuff. That was the early stages. But initially it was just, let's just do this and see what happens. And when it started to look like after a couple months that this is not going away, um then at that time I spoke with our president at that point in time, Mike Ward, and I said, you know, hey, I really think that we need to kind of Share, you know, our names and so forth. And we went back to a meeting with the kids and we said, hey, so we want to have a name for our club. And so that's when we officially started to call it Cincinnati Scale Junior Modelers. And they've come to adult meetings and they've seen how we operate on the big level. So they are kind of incorporated with us now. Uh, we will have some parents at our show volunteering, for example. And we'll have kids from our club entering the junior category and also assisting the show in other areas. So I'm a big, you know, you got to participate in a show and learn how things work. And we're going to mentor you and teach you how this stuff works. And we're really big on that. Now, to answer your question about IPMS, I don't remember exactly when, but when this started to look like this is going to be like a real thing that's going to stay around, I reached out to my contact Eugenie up at IPMS, like, hey, we got this thing going. You know, who can we talk to or who can I talk to? And I'd like to get some support from the national level. And it really, my first question was, you got any swag or anything that I can give to these kids? That's kind of how we started there. John Nowak has been a huge, huge supporter of this effort. And I can't thank him enough. Well, everybody on the e-board for that matter, because they've invited me to speak to them directly and give them updates. The positive support and encouragement from them has meant the world to me. And as we have done this effort, you know, yes, it's about our hobby. It is about, you know, instilling this seed in kids who are between the ages of nine and 17, both boys and girls, to discover something that you didn't know existed in terms of this hobby and fall in love with it, which they are doing. We see all the evidence. But we're also teaching a lot of life lessons. We're teaching them patience, how you stick with something, how you get along with people. You know, we always only say positive things to each other, never anything negative, how you can work towards a reward. So in other words, we have a point system in place so you can get something for free after so many points or so many meetings that you attend. So we, you know, patience, how to read instructions, hand-eye coordination, and also getting off your cell phone for a couple hours, which the parents really like.

I bet.

And one of the main goals also of this club has been to do it all for free. And I never want to assume anything about the financial position of any family or any child. And this whole mission, and that's really the way I think about it, this is a mission. And I'm a big believer that this should be a mission across the entire country if we want to keep this hobby surviving, which I think it absolutely can. We see a lot of growth in Asia and Europe, but of course there's a lot of competition out there. But I think this should be a mission with chapters all around the country. And as I've said at the uh seminar, we are here to support you in any way that we can and to teach you all the lessons that we've learned, what has worked, what hasn't worked, different things that we need to improve upon, which we do. And I'm so excited that that reached somebody, and I wish I could remember his name, but a young man in South Carolina contacted me. Hey, could you have a meeting with me and like tell me how to get this going? And so he and I did a Zoom meeting or a Google Meets meeting about two weeks ago, and I was so thrilled because that's means that this spark is starting to fire up a little

Finding Kids And Finding Kits

bit.

Where have you found these potential new junior members? I mean, is there one place that is that they've come from or from different places?

That's a great question because obviously, for any club out there that's listening who might want to do this, that's the premier question. Where do you get the kids? I think you just got to get one or two hooked and they'll tell all it starts out with one or two, and you just said it, Mike. It's that word of mouth. But I will tell you how I personally have done it is I've done it at local model shows, whether it's been in Columbus or Cincinnati or Ohio, and it's me just watching a crowd. And when I see a boy or a girl with a model in their hand walking over to that table, and I watch what they do, and I just quietly walk over, you know, and the parent will be there. And I man, that is really good. Boy, you are really good. Hey, did you ever think about, you know, maybe doing this like with people? Because guess what? Like we have a little club and it's all for free, and that's the way we've gotten at least 50% of the kids in our club, believe it or not.

No, I believe it.

You know, it's just being it's being the how do I want to put it? Taking a quiet, welcoming approach with the child and also the parent. You know, if you come across like a car salesman, you know, they're gonna be turned off. But I make sure to have something with me in writing. So we just came out with a brand new flyer for kids that will be at our show. I hope both you and Dave take a look at it because it's really colorful. I had it all designed just for kids in mind. It's really colorful, very engaging. And so again, this year I'll be out there looking for uh for potential members. But to your point, it's been also this word of mouth. So a kid who's in it and be like, hey, you got any friends you think? Yeah, I think I got this one friend who might like it. We'll bring him to the next meeting. I'll have free kits for both you guys. You know, and that's the other thing, too, about this effort that has been not a struggle because it hasn't been, because people have been so generous in terms of giving. But it's also the question at anybody who wants to do this out there in IPMS world chapters is where do you get all the models? And also meeting locations. So let me talk about meeting locations. So we meet at a public library just a little bit north of Interstate 275. Public libraries typically are great places to meet because they're total neutral territory. They've got conference rooms and everything, and they've got rules that you have to follow. But those are some of the best resources for anybody out there to look for. Tap your local library for a meeting location. So, as I said when we first started this, I was down in my basement pulling model kits off my shelf, bringing them up. As word started to spread, you know, then guys in my club, here, give this to your kids, here, take this, whatever. And that's so important because the mission, at least in my mind, really has to be free to these kids and to the parents. Because what we want to do is, yes, they eventually are buying stuff because I've seen it. I've seen the parents go out on their own, buy a model kit, buy tools, buy glue on Amazon, whatever the case is, right? But when they come to club, I don't want any money involved. Number one, because I don't want to be responsible for it. But I also want to just make the atmosphere, this is just modeling. Just come and model. And if you like this tank model, pick it up, it's yours.

Take it home, finish it, yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Well, to tie it back to the show coming up in October, is there going to be a table to promote this?

So we will have a sign at registration. So when any you know, parent with their children are coming in to register their models, we will have some of our brand new flyers there, in addition to a sign about signing up for the junior model club. We will also this year have a sale table back in the vendor area, but we'll be selling model kits for a very cheap price, and all those proceeds will go to fund the junior model club just to help buy not model kits, but supplies.

Okay.

Glue, sanding sticks, you know, that sort of thing. Cutting mats, Xaccto knives are consumables, right? Yeah. Um, so we will have that, and then you'll have me lurching around trying to recruit people.

Understand. So is there a web resource for this specifically?

There is. On our website, Cincinnati Scale Modelers at Cincypms.com. We have a page on our club on our club's website for the Junior Model Club. I would like to do a shout out to uh two of our members, Levi and also Will Evans, Levi Bauman, Will Evans, who both attended the National Convention and they both won awards. I was so thrilled for them to win awards at the National Convention. They will be at our show in October, along with some of our other members, but they deserve a a shout out for sure.

All right. Well, hopefully we'll get to meet these fine young folks.

Yeah. And, you know, we branded them as well. So all of our kids, they've got they've got junior model club t-shirts. So you'll see them too.

And um, that's cool.

So it's like one big family, and you know, it really is. And and I and I also need to tell you this, which has been really beautiful to watch. When we've had these meetings, we meet once a month on Sundays, and people from our grown-up club, if you want to call it, that who have come to spend time with the kids, I think what they've discovered is it's like going to summer camp. And it's so much fun. And to see these adults engage with these kids, but the kids wanting the engagement, that's what's been so beautiful to watch, is they love that engagement from our adult members. They're re they're so receptive to getting the help. Like, help me cut this piece, or where does this go, or how do you glue this? You know, they love that partnership.

Mentoring Skills And Handling Setbacks

Well, that reminds me, gosh, it's probably with was with in one of our first I can't remember if it was in one of our episodes or if it was one at one of the roundtables at a national convention early on after we started the podcast, but uh the the the question was raised what's what's one thing you've gotten out of this hobby? And for me, because I I joined our our host chapter or our chapter that we formed back in East Tennessee when I was a teenager, was that I learned to interact with adults on a level that was not a position of authority. It wasn't a teacher, it wasn't a parent, it wasn't you know, your part-time job boss. It was it was a a more of a peer kind of interaction. And I think as a teenager, I got as much out of that as anything. And I just kind of wonder if that's that's the kind of thing that's gonna the dynamics gonna happen with with what you just described with this summer camp kind of vibe. Yeah. And uh maybe they're they're gonna see these adults as as it's an opportunity for them to ga engage them as peers instead of is it a subordinate and an authority figure.

We have a young man in the club named Declan Sawyer who's a fantastic armor builder, and he has written a couple how-to articles that we've published in our club newsletter. So you're right. It's like when you engage just on models, you are just peer-in-peer, just talking about models. You know, you're right. We are not their boss, you know, we're not their teachers, we're mentors, sure we are. Yeah. We're coaches, sure you are. But we're all basically the same level.

Well, where I where I see this is paying forward, paying a dividend in the future is I'm I'm 58. I'm I'm late career in my engineering career arc, right? And now the the folks who are coming into the company I work for, and this is true no matter where you might work, what kind of company you're in, they're all, you know, they're all recent grades. If they're undergraduates, they're they're 20, 22 tops. So I'm older than most of them, most of their fathers by a little bit, most of them. And it's you can you can just tell the ones who've who've interacted with adults senior to them by a wide gap on a regular basis and those that have not. So I think it's this whole this whole concept's a really cool idea. And I think the peer-to-peer thing is gonna pay out for these these young people going forward.

It is. You know, you made me think of something too. When when we were at the national convention, one of the young people was a little upset that his model had a little bit of a flaw, and also that another model didn't get completed to be put into the show at the convention. And so, you know, I sat with him, so what's going on? He's like, told me. I said, So? I said, dude, you have any idea how many times that's happened to me? It happens to all of us. And while we were standing there, this is the truth. While we were standing there, we're out in the four what that big archery or atrium there at the convention center. And some man somewhere in the line at registration, we just hear crash. He had dropped his stuff on the floor. Oh, and so I said to my young friend, look, what just happened? How do you think that guy feels right now?

You feel better because you didn't get yours done and bringing it to have that happen to you.

I was like, dude, I said, You're here, you got modeling the competition, your model's good. I said, would you just trust me? You're gonna get stuff, you're gonna get poker chips or whatever the case is. But see, that's also part of the thing, you know, what with anybody out there listening when they want to hopefully pursue this junior club is you know, you will have to deal sometimes with the emotions of the children. And like you said, you can't do it from the standpoint of like a parent. You got to just talk to them as model builder to bottom builder and be like, dude, do you have any idea like how many airplanes I've screwed up or whatever the case is?

Yeah.

Exactly. Well, this is all just wonderful, man. Dave, you got anything else before we we let him go here tonight?

I am looking forward to meeting some of these fine young people up at the Cincinnati show.

They will love to meet both of you.

Well, uh one of them, I think it's Levi, I've met at least once, maybe twice, and both times, he and his parents have caught me in transition, and I've not been able to give the attention I've and I really feel bad about it. Yeah. So so hopefully maybe if I make it, we can rectify this. If not, they can pinch it and take care of it.

Yeah, Levi's great. All the kids are great. You know, I love them all to death. I'll tell you what, they're such good model builders, and to see them progress has been just amazing to watch. And they get excited. You guys will appreciate this. You know, we know our skill levels on the older Vel kits, like skill level two. And oh my god, Will, like I'm almost at skill level three. And I'm like, Yeah, you are. Congratulations. Now here's a dragon kit. Go to it.

Yeah, it's got 8,000 parts. You only need 4,000 of them.

And the instructions are mere suggestions. Exactly.

All right, we look forward to seeing you, man. And uh, we wish you the best of luck at the show and uh continued best of luck and winning with this uh youth chapter. So looking forward to an update on that somewhere down the road.

Thank you to both of you, and thank you for the hospitality.

You're welcome.

Looking forward to it.

Fall Show Season Closing

Well, Dave, I'm gonna have to look at my calendar and make sure I got a clear runway for this one.

You you better make Cincinnati, man. I'm telling you, last year you missed an absolute blast. Inch and I had tables together next to each other and just had the greatest time uh the whole time. So you gotta make sure you get your calendar clear and get up, get up there.

Well, folks, please make every attempt to uh attend the show in Cincinnati next month, and please make every attempt to attend the MMCL show this weekend after this episode's drops. It's coming up Saturday this weekend. We'll see some of these Cincinnati folks there, hopefully. And uh, it's fall show season, Dave. We're gonna have to get to them.

I can't wait.

All right, buddy. Well, we'll see you at the end.

See you soon.